White Wino did not rate them (in Vegas this week for "business" (wink, wink)....
Wine Wino rated the Lager as "Bad" - no plans to buy this one again. Something about the hint of sweetness in a beer that does not work for the Red Wine Wino.
For the Tropic Chillerz, 17% by volume almost always rates a "Good" rating in the Red Wine Wino's rule book. Label says:
"Other than standard orange wine with strawberry and banana puree, pineapple and lime juices, coconut cream, and other natural flavors added."